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Jamie Simon calls for physics-style science of deep learning
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Jamie Simon calls for physics-style science of deep learning

Jamie Simon, a researcher at Imbue and UC Berkeley, outlines a vision for transforming deep learning from a trial-and-error engineering field into a true natural science. He advocates for "dots-on-curves" theory—mathematical models that make quantitative predictions about training dynamics—and suggests that the field should prioritize physics-inspired intuition over hyper-rigorous but uninformative mathematical proofs.

// ANALYSIS

Deep learning is currently in its "pre-Newtonian" phase, where we have the engineering to build cathedrals but lack the materials science to explain why they stand.

  • Advocates for "dots-on-curves" theory—mathematical models like Scaling Laws that make quantitative predictions about training dynamics.
  • Criticizes current research for either being "Step A only" (speculative philosophy) or "Step B only" (mere engineering), calling for a balance of both.
  • Argues that over-mathematization often obscures insight, suggesting a "physics" approach of non-rigorous but illuminating arguments is more valuable for discovery.
  • Highlights the importance of "Hail Mary" hypotheses and Mechanistic Interpretability in discovering the internal logic of black-box models.
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2026-04-19

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2026-04-19

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