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Qwen samplers spark min_p debate
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Qwen samplers spark min_p debate

A LocalLLaMA thread questions why Qwen3.6 and similar reasoning models ship with temperature 1.0, top_k 20, and top_p 0.95 instead of a simpler min_p setup. The discussion frames sampler choice as an inference-quality issue, especially for local reasoning models and long thinking traces.

// ANALYSIS

The interesting bit is not whether min_p is “better,” but that sampler defaults are becoming part of the model contract.

  • Qwen’s official generation config lists temperature 1.0, top_k 20, and top_p 0.95, with no min_p field, so replacing them means leaving the tested path.
  • Reasoning models may need broader token diversity during hidden or explicit thinking, while aggressive truncation can make them loop, collapse, or over-prune useful low-probability branches.
  • min_p is attractive for local users because it adapts to confidence, but support is uneven across runtimes and the strongest evidence for it predates today’s reasoning-heavy models.
  • For developers serving local LLMs, this is a reminder to benchmark sampler changes against task quality, not just vibe-test chat outputs.
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qwen3.6-35b-a3bllminferencereasoningopen-weightsself-hosted

DISCOVERED

3h ago

2026-04-22

PUBLISHED

4h ago

2026-04-22

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TacticalRock